Jackie Bertolette is a Fashion Mogul, Editor of HauteOhio Magazine and has a podcast called, "A Fashion Empire." She is the creator of Ohio Fashion Week and is finishing her new book.
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Jackie Bertolette is a Fashion Mogul, Editor of HauteOhio Magazine and has a podcast called, "A Fashion Empire." She is the creator of Ohio Fashion Week and is finishing her new book.
Her goal is to de-mystify the world of fashion and stop discrimination via age, weight, race, and gender. Jackie is also a commercial photographer, a fashion designer and heads her own model management firm. Visit her at http://www.hauteohio.com to learn more about her magazine and more.

Jackie and NikiMarie connected on such a energetic and authentic level. They are both mothers, business women and continue to balance it all. As they keep thriving in their careers they continue to bring some positive content to their audience.

If you love this episode, please make sure to let us know at nikimarieradio@gmail.com, follow our host on all social media platforms @nikimarie_radio. https://linktr.ee/nikimarieradio

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Hello and welcome. I'm your host, Nicki Marie. Thank you

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so much for tuning in. I'm a mental health advocate,

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founder of Nicki Marie Productions, a mom, a wife, and

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the creator and host of Nicki Marie Radio. We feel

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one way about ourselves, and society sees us in another way.

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You may have heard this quote before. If you look good,

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you feel good, and if you feel good, you do good.

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But what happens when we are discriminated and belittled for

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our age, race, size, shape, and gender. These keywords are

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heavily scrutinized when it comes to the fashion industry. Joining

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us today to talk about the world of fashion, her magazine,

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and so much more is Jackie Bertillette. She is a

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fashion mogul, a magazine editor. She also has a podcast

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called a Fashion Empire, and she is the creator of

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Ohio Fashion Week. We are going to take a deeper

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dive into her mission with fashion, her book, Motherhood, and

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so much more. I'm happy to have her on the

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show to talk about not just fashion, but give us

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a behind the scenes look at running a magazine and

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understanding her mission in the fashion industry. So we're going

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to start with the name of your magazine.

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Thank you for having me. It's so nice to meet you.

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Yes, so nice to meet you. Happy to have you

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on the show.

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It is called hote Ohio Magazine and it focuses mainly

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on Midwest talent, but is not limited to by any means.

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And our goal is to provide a platform for aspiring

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or successful professionals and everyone in between, people who have

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a dream to be in the industry. We want to

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give you a shot at it.

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Well, what made you get into fashion?

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Well, actually, I've sort of been a fashionista most of

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my life, even when it wasn't cool to be a fashionista.

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So it's like a closet fashioning stuff. So I'm also

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very tall and very thin, and so I couldn't find

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clothes that fit me off the rack, much like the

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other end where plus size has a hard time with it.

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You know, it was interesting to me because I am

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technically the quintessential model, but I couldn't find clothes. So

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I learned to start sewing very young, about fourteen years old,

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and so it just kind of went from there, and

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you know, that was like my first endeavor into the

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actual fashion world.

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I feel like clothes, like when we're putting clothes on.

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We want to feel our best. But when you say

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that it was something that didn't fit you, yes, and

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you're very thin, that you me surprise a lot of

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people like, but you're thin. Everything is made for thin people.

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How did maybe if you're five to one, but when

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you're six foot no, So no pants fit me, no jeans,

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no bottom that anyway, it was either too big in

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the waist or too short in the legs, you know, so,

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and you know I had to I had to learn

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how to adapt, just like most people do.

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Yeah, it's kind of the best of both worlds in

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a way because everyone looks at the thin one and

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they're like, ooh, I want to be like that. But

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now we've seen fashion kind of move a little forward

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where we do have a lot of fashion shows where

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they're plus sized models, and now everyone is like, hey,

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I'm big, I'm beautiful, and I love who I am.

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Do you think that from beginning the beginning of fashion,

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if you can kind of take us back to what

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you've learned just being in that industry, in that in

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that world.

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Well, when I started, it was many decades ago, and

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the industry was totally different than it is today. It

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was a very myopic industry, even for models being six

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foot to all on a size too. I was not

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actually allowed to model because I mean it was it

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was a rough go for me because they won a

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five to ten and I was six foot. So you know,

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there's there's been discrimination in this industry as long as

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I've been around it, and probably much longer than that.

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But you know, I made my way and I said no,

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I'm going to do it, and I started modeling, and

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that's kind of how I put myself through college or

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at least paid for a lot of it. And yeah,

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so it's I think as as time has gone on,

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the actual industry has become a little bit more relaxed,

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but I think the main markets still have a long

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way to go. I applaud them for where they're at,

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but they have a long way to go. And so

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my goal was to provide a market for people who

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were not in the traditional model mold.

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I mean, if we if we take a deeper dive,

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not just in the body aspect of humans and fashion,

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but if we take a deep dive into agism. You know,

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we all age differently, we all look different obviously when

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we age and the aging process can be painful because

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of you know what comes along with that. So if

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I mean, I think we're pretty much all looking for

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the fountain of youth.

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Yeah, that makes sense. I'll find some of that.

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But how do you see age when it comes to

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your magazine. I've you know, had the opportunity to to

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kind of look through the pages and I'm thinking, you know,

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what do you look for? Like if you're in this industry,

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now you're seeing what you want for your magazine? Yes,

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so how do you recognize people of all ages, sizes, color.

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My process is open castings, so you do not have

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to be a professional, you do not have to be seasoned.

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So we work with and seek out actually a lot

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of people who just had a dream of trying it.

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For me, it has nothing to do with your physical package.

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It has everything to do with the beauty inside. So

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if you have the determination, if you have the commitment

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to find the joy in yourself, then we're going to

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help you find it. And you know, I can teach

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anyone to model. It's I mean, it's it's very difficult.

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If you're in the high end market. Modeling is a

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very difficult profession. But you know, I can teach anyone

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to do a photo shoot. I mean, I'm a professional

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photographer and I can't. You know, I work with people

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who've never modeled before, so I can teach you that part.

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I look for people who are of course traditional does

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have a place with us as well, but I also

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look to highlight non traditional people that would be considered,

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you know, unusual in the fashion market, because I think

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there's beauty in everyone, all ages, all sizes, all genders,

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you know, all walks of life life, and I think

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we need to start showcasing.

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That absolutely, absolutely. And you know, we see social media

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for what it is putting everything all pretty and it

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just looks all amazing, but there are there are cracks

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and dips and things that in a line. So I

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mean we should celebrate more. You know, there's a lot

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of photoshopping with with a lot of images that we

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seem so with what you're doing, what is your what

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is your mission? Because I know you're in pre production

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with your book, so let's explore that a little bit,

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your mission with your book and also just kind of

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taking those photoshop processes out of out of our view. Yes,

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just being all.

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Theme one of my main goals is to not photoshop.

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I can do everything photoshop, but I choose to show

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the beauty in the model. So I don't go out

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of my way to change skin colors or complexion or

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you know, folds or anything like that. I go out

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of my way to make sure that we bring the

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beauty out of what is already there. So my mission

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is to stay true to reality as possible and to

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showcase beauty and inter beauty in everyone. The book, well,

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everything I do is based on that. But the book

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is a culmination of I believe it's seventeen You don't

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quote me on that. If it's seventeen stories of models

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from all different walks of life who started out in

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self doubt situations. Some of them were very seriously abusive,

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and some of them were just simply I don't think

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I'm beautiful all the way into finding their inner beauty

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through modeling. So it's more of an inspiration on how to.

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It's sort of a patchwork for somebody who might be

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struggling in their own youth, so you don't have to

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necessarily have modeling as your goal. It can be a

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self help kind of just someone to identify with as well,

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but that's the goal, is to show beauty in everyone

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and to find beauty in yourself because you know, people

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are not going to find it in you for you,

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you have to find it in yourself.

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That's such a powerful statement because when we look in

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the mirror of what do we see and that reflection

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stares back at you and hopes that you love it,

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all of it.

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Yeah, and some days I don't love what I see either,

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you know what I mean. I'm not exactly twenty anymore.

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So I see the lines and I see the creepy skin,

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and I'm like, oh, but you know, I just love

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who I am, and I've had such a beautiful life

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and I'm so blessed to offer opportunities to people who

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have dreams, and you know, I just I try to

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focus on the life that I live, not the body

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that i'm in.

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So, yes, that's even more powerful because we're all just vessels.

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And you know, yes, my dad used to say that

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to me. That's funny, you said that.

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Yeah, it's just funny. You know. I posted something on

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my social media and everyone can go look and I

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don't know, laugh, feel entertained at Nicki Marie Underscore Radio

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but I posted, you know this part where we don't

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want to adult, like adulting is the worse, but.

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It is.

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But I think it's more of the process of being

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children when everything seems so easy and simple. You know,

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our parents took care of everything, and now here we are,

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fast forward, we're adults having our own children. Yes, it's

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like you don't want adults, so being a mom on

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top of everything else, like the career, the podcast, just everything,

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Now you have you have children and everything changes.

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Yes, absolutely, what was.

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That moment for you with your son that that changed.

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So I have three children and one is twenty one

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to one.

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Is nineteen three club girl, and.

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Then I have my thirteen year old and that's the

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one that you're speaking of. He Actually I had held

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a day job all of my career, as in the arts,

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but in a corporate setting and insurance companies and things

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of that nature. So it was when my youngest child

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was born, and he was born very very ill, that

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I had to basically choose whether I was going to

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be in the hospital with him and support him or

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whether I was going to go to work because I

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didn't have enough PTO time to take off. So my

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husband and I decided that he would, you know, stay

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work and I would stay with the baby, and so

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I resigned. So it basically is because of that that

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I am allowed now to have the time and the

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resources to do everything I'm doing. The magazine, the whole

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fashion empire would not have come about had it not

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been for the tragedy of my son, who is beautiful

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now full. I mean, he's just he's a miraculous recovery

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and so it was a long road, but he's a

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superhero and he's our little fighter. So but it's because

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of him that all of this is available to people

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and dreams are being fulfilled. So I kind of feel

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like there's some kind of divine intervention in there, you know.

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So that's just me, they'll probably I.

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Always feel like everything happens for a reason. And you know,

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I speak about this very often that a lot of

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what we go through it challenges us to be better people. Yes,

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and the process of that can be you're so gratifying

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because you've gone through something and you're like, wow, you

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know I can help others or help guide others to

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so finding that everything that happens in life is a test,

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and it's really how you come through that passing the tests.

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I mean, some people are like, well, I'm never going

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to pass the test, and I'm like, no, you're surviving,

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You're living, you're thriving. You've asked the test. What you're

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talking about.

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I mean to me, there's not even an option. I mean,

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you know, failure is only failing to try it, you

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know what I mean. Yeah, life is not a test.

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Life is life. And you know, so what started out

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as a horrible tragedy that I couldn't understand where God

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was in this situation ended up being his glory because

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you know, he brought us to the right doctors and

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you know, everything just fell into place for him, and

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you know, thank God, he is a well child now

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and on target and on grade level. But it's because

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of that time being home with him that I've been

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able to launch all of these businesses that support other people.

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But my main and always first goal is to homeschool him.

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So everything happens around that. So his succession life my

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first goal. My older two are already out of high school,

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so they're good to go. So my kids are always

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my focus, and he needs to get through school first,

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and so everything else is like icing on the cake.

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Yeah, speaking of the icing on the cake, I'm so

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happy to know that you are also a podcaster.

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as well. Those were things that people have been asking

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me to do for really since I launched the magazine

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almost six years ago now, and I was like, I

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don't know when you think I'm going to have time

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for this people. You know, I run Ohio Fashion Week,

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I run the magazine. Of course, I homeschool my son.

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I you know, I manage models. I'm a commercial photographer,

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you know, on my own, and like, I don't know

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when I'm going to have time to learn these new skills,

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how to podcast and how to write a book and stuff.

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But along comes the pandemic and things completely changed for

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everyone except for my son and I who were already homeschooling,

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and so that whole transition was not that big of

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a deal for us, And so we actually use that

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who were trying to learn how to adapt to homeschooling

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or remote schooling. So he and I both did some

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live based times helping people to kind of transition into

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homeschooling and it was really cool. But that time down

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up from being at photo shoots and all my daily stuff,

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I thought, you know what I'm gonna do and I'm

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gonna learn how to do it. So I picked up

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you know, the youtubeing for Dummies and you know, literally,

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I mean, you know, I'm like, I'm going to teach

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myself how to do these things. So now's the time.

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So that's how the podcast came along. I love doing

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it because we talk to people in the industry about

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the realities and sometimes it's funny and we're in tears

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will laughing so hard. And then sometimes it's just sad

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because it's like, you know, the industry is the industry,

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you know, and there are people who are predatory and

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you have to really be careful, and you know, we

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talk about ways to try to be safer and protocols

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and it's just it's so much fun to talk to everybody.

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I mean, I kind of feel like with fashion movies,

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just all of that stuff kind of came about, like

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with the Me Too movement mm HM can talk about

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protocols and kind of restrictions and guidance and all of

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that stuff, like how how do you know models say no,

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when me an opportunity comes up and they feel like

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they won't be able to get to where they're going

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because there is someone who's threatening them and saying, well,

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you're not going to do X, Y and Z, not

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going to be anybody because you actually need me to

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move ahead.

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can do anything without them. So that might, you know,

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that might close the door on a rouch that you

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were headed for, But that doesn't mean that the door

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is closed on getting into the industry. It just means

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that door is closed. And I would not put myself

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in any position to take on, or submit to, or

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agree to anything that you're not comfortable doing. The real

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question comes in the contract that you sign with any agent,

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or any release that you might sign with a photographer.

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You have to be very careful about the documentation you

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signed because it may be written in there that you

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are doing this. You know, you may be giving, you know,

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your permission and not even realizing it. So that's my

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first and foremost thing is to look over contracts and

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you know, make sure you know what you're getting yourself

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into and what you can say no to.

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Absolutely, wow, you know, my daughter she had a first

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fashion show when she was three years old.

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Yes, it was an incredible experience. Yeah, it was behind

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the scenes was absolute chaos. Yes, you had so many

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other children that needed to put on certain clothes and

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we were concerned about her getting undressed and you know,

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hair and makeup. And I was like, waiting three years old?

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What do you mean with hop Yeah, but.

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What would be the best age for you know, if

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you want to get into this industry, what would be

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the best age to start?

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I would say if you're looking to get into the

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there's different markets within the industry. If you're looking to

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get into high fashion and runway type stuff, then I

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think that's starting to really seek out education and learning

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opportunities would be around ten years old, because generally, if

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you have a future in this industry, they're going to

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start signing you and looking at you when you're fourteen

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for women and about sixteen for men, So much earlier

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than that, you certainly have opportunity, but it's not really

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going to prepare you for the actual industry.

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If you're looking into being commercial work, which is a

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different animal entirely, then you can start as young as

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mommy will let you start. Yeah, so yeah, I mean

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you can start a young either way, but you know

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it's really just gathering experience prior to that. You really

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should start really focusing when you're like ten years old.

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Yeah. I just think of the mentality or the mindset

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of our youth. You know, they're going into it feeling confident,

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but then somewhere their confidence level just really goes down.

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They start looking at other kids and they're thinking, I

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am I good enough to do this, and that.

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They start comparing themselves. Absolutely, and that's an internal thing.

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Yeah, that's I think that was the drawback with my daughter,

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because you know, she was three. She was beautiful, she

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was confident walking down the runway, but then we kind

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of pulled her back because we weren't sure how it

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was going to hinder her or if it would him

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or her emotionally and mentally.

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Well, that's actually it can. I'm not gonna, you know,

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deny that, because it absolutely can. It depends on the

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people you surround yourself with or surround your child with,

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and it depends on the strength of your child to

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be able to say no, no, you're not right. You know,

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I'm right, I'm beautiful, just like you're beautiful. But that's

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basically the premise of my book, The Mission. It's called

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the Mission Heartening Your Beauty, because it's about finding your

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inner beauty in a world that tells you you're not beautiful.

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So for me and everything I do and the other

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producers who I work with in the Midwest and actually

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around the country, I only associate with people that I

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would trust my children with. So people who are positive,

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people who are uplifting, people who do not go around

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he said, she said, did you see did you see?

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Oh my gosh, you know, I mean, everybody is like,

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oh my god, we're walking a runway. You know. It's

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not like, oh, look what she's wearing. You know, everybody,

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you know. So I think it comes down to who

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you find to be part of, you know. Certain you know,

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it's like beauty pageants. You know, there are some beauty

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pageants that are absolutely about making the child into an adult,

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you know. But then there are some beauty pageants that

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are absolutely about shining the beauty of a three year old,

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you know. So it just depends on who you align

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yourself with. Because this industry is so amazing to build confidence.

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I have a little if I may I have. I

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believe she's six now. I signed her at five. Little girl,

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such a beautiful little girl. But I met her as

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a coach runway coach for a pageant that she was

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signed up or mom forced her to do. She was

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so shy. I mean, I don't think I ever met

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any kid that was as shy as she was. She

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would not even like go on my leg at the

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coaching sessions and stuff. And about six weeks of coaching,

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she finally ended up actually walking the runway by herself,

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which I never thought would happened because I didn't think

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she was even going to make it to the show.

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But that young lady has now signed with me, and

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she constant her mom is constantly calling me saying she

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when she's gonna get on the runway, she can't wait.

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She needs the photo shoot she's looking for, you know,

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like she cannot get enough of it now. And that

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is all because of her being around people who are

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uplifting her and telling her she's beautiful. And when we do,

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like do criticism, it's constructive. It's hey, try this when

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you're walking or you know, it's not what are you doing?

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You know? So, but the industry can't be like that,

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so you have to be strong.

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Yeah, man, talk about the words we tell ourselves and

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the words. So when is this book coming out?

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Is actually prat right now, So our target date is

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the end of June or July first. We would like

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to get it out with our summer issue on June

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twenty second, but well, it depends on production. If we

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can get it out, that's our actual goal, June twenty second. Yeah,

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but yeah, I think our feasible goal is July first.

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But it's such a good book, and I really, you know,

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I really encourage people to read it and share it

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with their kids because there's every single person can identify

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with some story in there, and you know, some of

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them will bring you to tears and some of them

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will make you laugh, and you know, it's just it's

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important for someone to have a role model to say, hey,

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if they did it, I can, you know.

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So I think that's fantastic. I'm all about telling stories,

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sharing stories, the good, the bad, the ugly, incredible, impactful stories,

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and that's pretty much what we do on this show.

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Tell stories and feel confident and comfortable telling your story.

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So what is the name of your magazine? One more time.

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It is called HOTE Ohio h A U t E

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Ohio Magazine and our website is Hotohio dot com. And

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everything we do you can find links to our tabs there,

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including the podcast and any merchant we sell or if

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you want to contribute, if you want to participate, if

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you want to sponsor or advertise any of the the

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levels of participation. It all has the information there on

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how to submit to us, and you know, how to

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get your information to us and see if maybe we

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can help you, you know, realize your dream.

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And what's your social media information?

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Yes, so everything except Facebook, that would be YouTube and

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Twitter and Instagram. It's going to be oh f W

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Underscore Official. And then on Facebook we have pages for

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each one of my individual entities to fashion Alliance, Ohio

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Fashion Week, hoto HEW Magazine discovered model scouting and management,

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so they're all there. You can just kind of you

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know there and you can link to everybody.

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So that's cool with everything going on, I know that

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you created the Ohio Fashion Week, Well, what does fashion

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look like during a pandemic?

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Unfortunately, it looks very comfy and terry cloth, you know, fleece.

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But the irony is that. That's one of the things

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that I did during the pandemic to try to lift

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spirits was we did what was called the Boredom Ball,

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and we did a virtual event around the world and

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we picked one day and had everybody dress up and

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get beautiful and their most beautiful piece of clothing, whether

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it was a tuxedo or beat a gown or whatever,

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their most you know, gorgeous piece was that they felt

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beautiful in. And then we do just live your day

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that way, like do the laundry and do the dishes,

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and send us pictures of you during the barn and Ball.

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And it was so much fun. We had people all

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over the world sending us pictures gardening and cleaning their toilets.

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It so much fun. I think I think we had

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to find so much creative things to do during this pandemic.

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I mean, we've had the incredible devices at our fingertips

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creating different things, you know, doing virtual interviews, you know,

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making up games. I've actually done a bunch of different

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house party events on my phone called the house Party App,

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and we've played uno and trivia and just all kinds

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of things just to kind of be in front of

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each other.

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So right right, Yeah, it really was. It was a

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huge which a psychiatric blow I guess, to not be

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around people, especially for kids. Kids really have had a

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hard time with us, and so it's been important to

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have the Internet and all the virtual contacts with each other,

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you know. I mean I have let my son play

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more video games online than I ever have, just so

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that he can have some contact with the outside world,

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you know, because everything is you know, I don't know

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what they call that when they talk to each other

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and play games together. I don't know. That's a whole

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new world for me.

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Yeah, my son uses rollblocks. Yes, he messages his friends.

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I'm like, you guys are just down the street from

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each other.

483
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Yeah, exactly.

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But it strengthens their vocabulary at times. So yeah, I'm

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like cool with it.

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And my actually, for my son, his neurologist actually had

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us start video games very young with him specifically because

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of the hand eye coordination and so he is very

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one of his shortcomings is strength in his left side,

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and so it really does help him like with his

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ot and his buying motor skills and stuff. So so

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I know a lot of people are like, oh, video

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games are you know, mushing your mind, but there are

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so many things that are positive about them too. I mean, yeah,

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there's some negative, but you know, you have to find that,

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like you have to find your inner beauty. You have

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to find the beauty and things that are you know

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that they love you know, I mean.

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Yeah, So it's all about finding balance, yes, finding balance.

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So thank you so much for being on the show today.

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I appreciate you.

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Thank you, I appreciate you.

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I can't wait for the book and just continued viewing

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of your magazine and your podcasts Fashion Empire. Yeah, yeah,

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I dressed a little fashionable today.

506
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I noticed I was of comments on your shirt. It's amazing.

507
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Thank you, thank you. Yes, without you here, I would

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be just probably in my pajamas. So thank you again.

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I mean thank you to everyone, because you know, without

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this show, I think that I would just sleep in

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bed all day and be in my pjs and wrapped

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up in my robe, cuddled up with a cup of coffee.

513
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Yes, I understand, especially now you know it is. It's

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I am like the kind of worker, be like I

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never can relax, but I do find myself, especially on

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dreary days or something, I'm just like, ugh, I just

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want to stay in my robe too, so I totally

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understand you.

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Thank you for listening to today's show. I hope you

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is love each other, but more importantly, love yourself. So again,

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