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AUTHOR

Author: Marketing Mogul Manual: Improve Your Marketing Brand by Derrick M. Guest, CEO of Griot’s Roll Film Production & Services Inc. (February 2012)

Author: I Built It But They Ain’t Coming: The Marketing Mogul’s Manual on How to Pursue, Date, and Engage Your Customer by Derrick M. Guest, CEO of Griot’s Roll Film Production & Services Inc. (April 2014)

Author: Opportunity Knocked Next Door: My American Dream to Becoming a Successful Man. A Memoir based on the life of Derrick M. Guest (August 2019)

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Chief Executive Officer & Founder of Griot’s Roll Film Production & Services Inc. In-depth knowledge of all aspects of production & post-production services. Optimizing impact, design and match on-line video marketing communications styles to all mediums within specifications and needs of our clients. Raising organizations’ profiles through branding and the production dissemination of quality video production and services on-line Social Media.

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Hello, Hello, and welcome. I am your host, Nicki Marie.

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I am the host and creator of this great show,

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The Nick Murray Radio Show, where we celebrate voices and

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stories of entrepreneurs, visionaries, authors, music artists, and so many others.

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Our purpose is to promote individuals who are motivating and

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creatively affecting change around the world or in their community.

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who you are inspiring. We influence others more than we know.

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So today we have a guest who goes by the

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name of Derek m Guests. He is going to be

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talking to me about his opportunity to be a keynote

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speaker at the Virtual Bronx Book Fair on July thirtieth

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and July thirty First, if you were listening to WCAA

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LP one oh seven point three FM Warnings with Nicki Marie,

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we had to make it a little shorter for radio purposes,

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but on this show we are going to be playing

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the full unedited interview with Derek M. Guests. So continue listening,

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sharing and supporting the show. I hope you stay for

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the full interview with Derek M.

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Guests.

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I am an author, entrepreneur.

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My book that I currently have out now is an

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Opportunity Knock next Door, my American dream becoming a successful man.

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I'm also a business owner happened to be starting a

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vending machine business and a couple other businesses.

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I'm a teacher.

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I teach history and so many more things that we

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don't have enough time to cover. Absolutely said only forty

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five minutes. Say so, look, you know, I mean on

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the time.

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So the last time we spoke was on a Father's

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Day special if opportunity. Now then we did leadership and

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leadership our Yes. Then I was at a few of

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your book signings.

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Yes you were. You were the moderator, which you were

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amazing at. Thank you, thank you, amazing moderator.

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Yes, but now here we are fast forward. There's a

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pandemic COVID. You know, now everyone is kind of sort

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of getting vaccinated. But how has life been for you

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as a teacher and an author and a father and husband?

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I mean so yeah, so as a teacher, you know

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I was when we were talking about this before. You know,

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it was pretty difficult because I was telling the story

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how I was teaching virtually as well as in person.

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So I had like, you know, I think I had

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like maybe twenty fifteen twenty kids online, and then I

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had another maybe five six seven kids in class, And

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like I was saying, you know, kids are no different

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than us. They're human just like we are, and they

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all learn at different speeds, methods, you know, different talents,

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and be able to not only kind to gauge that,

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but also being able to keep them engaged, you know,

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because when they're at home and your mom you understand this.

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You know, they have so many things to distract them.

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You know, they got the phone, they got the apps,

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they got the games, they got this and that, you know,

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so try to keep them engaged and then paying attention.

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When they're not being engaged, and then not.

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Forgetting the kids that are in class with you, you know,

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because to keep them engaged as well, you know, and

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keeping them feeling like you're paying attention to them as well,

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and things that they're concerned about and asking questions or

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you know, being able to get the material properly so

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it was. It was pretty tough. It wasn't easy. People

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don't really understand. Maybe some more people may understand now

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how tough it is to be a teacher.

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It is not. It is not an easy gig, knows not.

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So, you know, we really should be saluting our teachers

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for you know, fighting through this and trying to keep

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our kids engaged and educated and get in the prepare

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for their futures.

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Yeah. Absolutely, I agree.

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A thousand, one thousand, a thousand, a million percent. This

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has been a very challenging time doing virtual learning and

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having the patience, having the patience to just sit there

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and help and guide. But I you know, when the

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schools finally opened up, I was like, look, the teachers

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need more money, they need more respect, they need more

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help from the parents. Like I was like, look, I

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am team teachers all the way. I actually joined the

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PTA this year for two I'm the vice president on

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the PTA board.

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Nice.

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I'm like, whatever I can.

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Do to help, to be assistance of assistance, I will

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do that.

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So thank you, Hot talk to you.

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Appreciate you.

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I appreciate all the teachers out there, teachers, principal, anyone

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and higher ed basically and anyone who is at the

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post secondary level institutions and all of that.

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I can't even stress it enough.

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But as far as like with writing, have you had

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challenges where like during the pandemic, if you're not at

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a book signing, what are you doing?

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That that that's the tough thing, you know because as

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especially as an independent writer, that's really how you.

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Make a lot of your money is the book signings.

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While I have made you know money, As far as

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people buying books online, the biggest portion of you know,

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that income is when people see you in person. You know,

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a lot of people still you figure in this age

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of you know, elect you know, technological age, that more

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people would be easier to want to move toward you know,

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buying and just you know, purchasing things online and which

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which that is true to a certain degree, but there's

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certain things people still like that personal touch, to be

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able to talk to the author and have that person

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sign their book and you know speak, you know, hear

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them speak about their inspiration for the book, whatever the

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book content is. Uh, it's still something that people crave

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and want. That's that has not changed and I think,

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if anything, it's grown since COVID because of the lack

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of personal contact with people, you know, so having to

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be social distance has people craving more for you know,

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social interaction. So you know, I think even more now

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once we kind of start getting past this, you know,

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more people getting vaccinated.

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And you know, being more comfortable being in.

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Groups and stuff like that, that's going to start, which

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is already have you know, kind of picking up a

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little bit more. But you know, it has been tough.

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It hasn't been easy, not at all.

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I'm sure. I mean, it's like anything.

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I was actually watching this show where someone said, I

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don't like rules, and if there's a red button then

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someone tells me not to push it, I'm going to

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push it. So I kind of feel like with everything

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posing and it was like it forced us to think differently.

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It forced us to kind of really appreciate as things

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do open up, Like, oh my gosh, I didn't really

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feel so excited about this because I was forced not

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to not to do it, or not to go out,

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not to travel. Now everybody's trying to take full advantage.

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They're like, what, yeah, we don't have to wear masks

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or what we could travel now things are starting to

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open up, so what would.

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Be your first.

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Moment to do something now that certain things are opening up,

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and then you have a couple of things coming up.

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Well, I have the Bronx Book Fair.

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I want to first thank Lauren Connelly for the executive

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director of the Bronx Book Fair for allowing me to participate,

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as well as the board for selecting me. I was

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voted in UH to be the keynote speaker as well

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as the author spotlighted UH as part of this event.

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So it's a huge honor not only because I was selected,

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but also because I'm from the Bronx. You know, I

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live in Westchester now, but I grew up in the

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South Bronx. That's where I'm from.

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So we're gonna put a day exits right, That's where

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I'm from.

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That's what that's in, that's in my soul, that's that's

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that's why I was bred. So to have your home

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say hey, you know, UH, we see what you're doing

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and we're proud of you, that's big. That's big, you know.

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So you know, like I said, it was a huge honor. So,

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but that's virtually that's going to be virtual. On July

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thirtieth and thirty first and also trying to work on

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doing other events. So we'll see how that, you know,

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kind of turns out. But we got that one going

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and you know, just keep pushing.

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Yeah, do you think that? Do you think that we're

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still going to be doing virtual events for some time now?

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Do you think that's going to be the new norm?

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I don't think it's going to be. I think what's

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going to be the new normal is kind of a

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combination where people can you know, let's say you have

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a speaker who you know can't make it out, you know,

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to an event, but rather than say, well they couldn't

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make it out, you could do it virtually as well,

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you know, and people will be used to it because

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we know.

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Is for so long.

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I think it's not going to be the norm where

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you're going to have, Once people feel more comfortable, you're

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going to have all virtual events without the combination, you

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know what I'm saying. I think it would be a combination.

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I think people will still be okay with that. But

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those who want to come, you know, and be in

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person and talk to people and feel comfortable being around people,

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I think that will be the way it will be.

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Yeah, I think even last night the other day watching

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virtual concerts.

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Yeah, what was that? Like? What was that like?

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I mean you still feel like you're there, yeah.

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In a way.

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Yeah, but it's like it's a free concert. It's an

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opportunity to see one of the greats our musical generation.

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Who was and you're allowed to say.

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Well, I I was watching.

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He Sweat versus Bobby Brown.

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Oh okay, yeah, and.

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I mean even like Monica versus Brandon. Yeah, just hearing

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the music like it's music that you haven't played for

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so long.

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Yes, yeah, and then when you hear them together.

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Yeah, it's I don't know, it just does something, it

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does something a little different.

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Yeah, it's it's sort of like reminiscent because one of

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my favorite verses was Jill Scott and Erica Badou. Yes,

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and that was like amazing. That was amazing, Right, you

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feel like you were there. I felt like I was there.

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And you know what made it really good. It wasn't

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just the fact that they were playing the music. Is

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you get to see you kind of get to be

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a fly on the wall of two artists that you respect,

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kind of respecting each other and saying, man, what was

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the inspiration behind that? You know, I used this guitall

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and this stuff didn't only or to say to each other,

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and you get to kind of be in the room

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with them, man, kind of getting them to have this

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conversation about what was the inspiration about behind each song

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and how did the song feel for them when they

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listened to it. Because did you did you.

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Watch that versus?

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I did?

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Right and then and the part I think.

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I've watched every every versus maybe like the hip hop.

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Yeah, depending on who it was.

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Yeah, yeah, I haven't watched every it has to be interesting.

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But I'm like you, I haven't watched every versus that one.

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I definitely wanted to see. And the thing I loved

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about that one was when Jill Scott played one of

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her songs and Erica Badu's family started singing the song.

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I love that they all came from behind the camera

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and they were all singing the song. So I mean,

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let's just love, man.

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I just love that that is love.

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it best that it's not really a battle, it's a celebration.

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Yes, you know, it's about respect.

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kind of singing each other songs.

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Like, oh yeah, I remember this. Okay, you want to

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play a new edition? Okay, yeah yeah.

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But it brings me back to that creative mentality. I

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think you and I are both creatives and we see

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things differently and we interpret things differently.

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So when when we think back to when we did

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Leadership and Leadership hour M, you were talking about some

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childallenges that you face with writing, and so I wanted

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to get into a little bit of what were some

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of the challenges that you had just going into writing

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being an author.

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long that, you know, writing like I hear people talk

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about writer's block and stuff like that, and I don't.

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I never associated, you know, any kind of you know

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block as far as me.

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Not being able to write something as.

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A writer's block. You know, it's just because I don't

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write that way. I just sometimes I'll write things that

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may not make sense to somebody else, but just to

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get it out, you know, I write, you know until

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I feel like I get to a point where I

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can kind of curtail it. So it makes the connection.

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I feel like I want to make, you know, and

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I don't spend a whole lot of time kind of

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thinking about what somebody else is going to you, as

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far as you know how they're going to receive it.

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I put myself in the reader's see and said, if

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I was reading this, you know, doesn't make sense. So

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I'm always still coming back to me, you know, as

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opposed to somebody else else outside of me. And since

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I feel like I'm a very practical person, if it

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makes practical sense, then it should make sense to most people.

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So for me, the difficulty the most is just the

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after process, after the writing process, after all of that,

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because the writing, the actual physical writing of the content,

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is probably what I do best, you know. I you know,

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I started getting in my head if I'm talking for

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other people, if I'm talking if I'm like writing for

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a woman character, I get into, you know, what that

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person's essence is, you know, because I've grown up around

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so many females and women, and you know a lot

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of women are you know, my heroes, you know, so

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I kind of can get, you know, the feel of,

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depending on the circumstances, how that person probably would respond right.

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And the same thing about any character or any person

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real or unreal fictional would probably respond. So the dialogue

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part and the content part is not the toughest part.

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It's more of the remedial menial things that are kind

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of more of the tougher things, you know, like you know,

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the formatting and you know how long the book.

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The pricing, the ISBN numbers and all that stuff, right,

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are probably more tough parts.

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that challenge of what are people going to read or

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get from this?

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Because like even even interviewing.

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Some some people, it's like what's the biggest takeaway? What

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do I want them to take away from that particular show.

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Yeah, so I.

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Think that's spot on to figure out what it is

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that you're writing about, what do you want the reader

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to get from it? But now when we get into

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public the publishing publishing side of it, what are the

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challenges of I guess publishing a self publishing or choosing

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to have a publishing company publish the book. Like I've

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heard that there when you when you self publish, are

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basically doing it on your own, like nothing really changes,

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but if you're with a company, they might tweak the

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book and now the book isn't what you expected it

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to be or how you wrote it, right, is that true?

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Well, if you go to like so we have to

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make a you know, distinctions here, so let me stay

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self publishing. So there are many variations of that. Right,

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you can self published, meaning you can do everything from

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creating the book, formatting the book, you know, getting all

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the like I said, ISPN number for the book and

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putting it on your website, printing it yourself rather than

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having like Amazon printed for you.

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And getting into the reader's hand. Right.

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And then there's a self publishing portion of it, or

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independent pub of publishing your book, where like something I

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did was I created the book or matter at the book.

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But Amazon actually does the distribution for me right where

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they take not only I have to pay them for

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the printing, but they also take a portion of my royalties,

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which is a part that.

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I want to change, you know what I'm saying.

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But it's about getting with the right partner, which is

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not easy to do.

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And that's where where where it's a problem. It's because

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there when you get with a place like you know, Google, Play, Amazon,

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whatever the company is, and they're part of the distribution

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they take a certain portion of the royalties.

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And it depends on when you have a large company

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like Amazon, the royalties can be different based on what

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they where they sell right, so here in America, Uh,

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their their royalty portion is a little bit bigger between

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me in them here. But if I sell overseas, which

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I have, I get a bigger royalty from that.

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So that's okay.

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But I feel like I did most of the work,

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and I did also, I did all of the work,

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excuse me, right, so I should get, if not all

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of the money, most of the money.

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They should get a very small portion for distribution. Right.

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But like I said, when you're an independent author and

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you know one, that brand that they have, you know,

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kind of lifts you up a little bit.

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If you say, oh, it's on Amazon, everybody goes oh.

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Right.

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So there's that, and then there is the giving people

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so many different people access.

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Like I said, I sold books overseas.

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I've been overseas to speak, but my largest audience is here, right,

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So they they kind of give me somewhat of an

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ability to distribute in other places that I haven't found

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a company yet to be able to do that. But

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if I find one and I get a better deal.

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You better believe I'm gonna take that deal.

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Things that I didn't know.

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Yeah, So what would be the biggest takeaway lesson from

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you learning about the distribution with Amazon?

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Like for other authors, what would you tell them that

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they should probably do well?

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I mean, you have to be clear about what you're

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trying to achieve. For me, it's about building my audience.

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Keep building my audience. The more books I write, you know,

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the more people know about me, the more people like

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my books.

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The next time I.

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Make another one or write another one, the more people

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are buy. You know, you gotta kind build your audience,

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and you have to constant market because people feel like,

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you know, okay, you know I wrote the book, I

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put it out. Let's say they did the same thing

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I did. I put on Amazon. Just I'm now, I'm

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just gonna sit here and wait for the checks rolling.

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If you if you're gonna.

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Do that, then you know, unless your name is Tanisee Coates,

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you're probably not gonna make any money.

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Right.

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So my thing would be doing what I've always done well,

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which is keeping my face and name out there, right,

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keeping my book out there. You know, you see this

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shirt I got. I got my book on here. I'm

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people put give me a review. I send them a

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T shirt with this on it. So they walk around

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people like, well, what is that? Right, I'm all over

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social media. I'm on Nikki Marie's show, right, I'm talking

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to this one.

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I'm in this newspaper. You got to keep keep people,

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keep keeping the mind of people right.

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Every time somebody says, man, this was a great book,

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this was a page turn that's going out right. Uh,

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that's that I had to I just released a new

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ad with that on it. Or everybody who's ever said

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that they love this book that's.

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Going to be on it. So you got to create

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a word of mouth.

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That's what marketing and advertiser is all about, creating word

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of mouth about.

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What you're doing.

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So the portion about any new writer who's coming out here,

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you know, once you get past the content part, formatting part,

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and getting it out whatever means that is, I don't

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care if you're doing it on your own website.

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You have to be vigilant.

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About, you know, communicating with your audience and knowing who

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your audience is and you know, getting them excited about

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this stuff you do so they start spending them dollars,

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but even more of a benefit talking to their friends,

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family members, associates.

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You need to get this book. It's wonderful, right, that's

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what you got to create.

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Love it.

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Tell me tell me three things if you could describe

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your your book.

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And using three words?

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Wow? Just three? Okay? You said just three single words?

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Well yeah, because if I'm reading it, what are the

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three I would say?

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Your top three meaningful words to describe the book?

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Inspirational?

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Uh okay, so inspirational, uh, captivating and uh satisfying.

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Wow?

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Yeah, was that good?

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That was.

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So I'm kind of a writer there, you know.

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Well, you know on the show, we like to inspire people. Yeah,

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so inspiring is awesome.

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I have a question for you, Nicki, Marie, you don't

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mind me asking? Yes, Yeah, So you told me that

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you were writing a book. When is your book coming

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out for the audience so we're gonna buy it?

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To take a deep breath? What happened?

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You know? It's I talk a lot about this book

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and it has gone from a memoir to a self

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help book to a poetry book. So I feel like

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I'm taking lessons from everybody else on the things what

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to do the things to avoid.

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Yet that's what we want to know.

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Well, I have started.

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I have started, and you know what, I was so

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passionate enough to make a cover for it because I'm like,

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if I do the cover, there's no going back.

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There's no going back.

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So it's pretty much just kind of my journey on

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how I came out of the darkness into the light.

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So it's supposed to be a motivating book, kind of

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guiding people, especially when you're in a mental health space,

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kind of guiding people out of certain situations, challenging them

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to think differently, to change their mindset. So as I'm

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speaking to you, I'm like, Okay, how do I make

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the inspiring, motivating, captivating, and all these other things.

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All in one?

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Yeah?

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Well, I'm the dos and don'ts of distribution.

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Yeah well, I think I think the thing that what

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keeps most people from writing is what you're kind of

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doing right now? Is what am I trying to do?

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And like I would tell anybody, it's not about trying,

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it's about doing. It's about It's one of my favorite movies,

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by the way, is Star Wars. Right, I'm like a

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I'm like a Star Wars nerd Okay. So Yoda is

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like one of my favorite characters, and you know, one

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of the things he says to Luke Skywalker is either

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do or don't do. There is no try right right,

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So it's about just doing right. It's like what I

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was saying about writing is like, it's not I don't

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sit there and go man, this has to be captivating,

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like what.

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I just those word you just asked me.

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Just go in there and do it and whatever comes

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out comes out. We'll tweak as we go and go

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back and say, oh, you can make this a little

481
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:10.240
bit better.

482
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:11.920
But in the meantime, you.

483
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.480
Just just flushing it out. You just flushing out all

484
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.799
your thoughts, everything you're thinking about. Because I have to

485
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.279
tell you, you know how important it is a voice such

486
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:29.920
as yours is right. There are women men who are

487
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.880
struggling with, you know, mental health, and they.

488
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:35.400
Need more voices.

489
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.279
We need as a community, more voices to talk about

490
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.519
issues such as this, right Because me and you were

491
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.160
talking about this before in the Father's Day Show. You know,

492
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:52.000
there's still a stigma around mental health in the black community, right, Men,

493
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:54.400
When I talked about that barbecue and somebody said, I

494
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:59.680
go see the therapist, the barbecue stop, you know, we would.

495
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:01.559
Stop with the red cup down. They're putting down their

496
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.680
ribs and they're looking at you like that's still happening.

497
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:11.440
It's still happening, right, So you gotta have more voices

498
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.839
such as yours to say, look, you know, this is

499
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:24.559
something that is just as normal and things that every

500
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:25.720
day people go through.

501
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:26.880
It's not the.

502
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.240
Guy, the homeless guy sitting on the corner that's just

503
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.720
going through it. It's somebody who works right next to

504
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:33.599
you is going through It's somebody who's in your family

505
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:34.400
that's going through it.

506
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.880
You on and on and on right, right.

507
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.400
So we need those voices out there. We need people

508
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:43.039
to talk about it. The more we talk about it,

509
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:46.119
the more it becomes normalized. So because if you go

510
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.359
I have white friends, they talk about, oh yeah, I

511
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.400
go to my therapists and nobody thinks anything about it.

512
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.119
They go right, ste salad with the raisins in it.

513
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:57.480
Pass it right, They don't even talk. They don't. It's nothing.

514
00:30:59.279 --> 00:30:59.960
It's not a big thing.

515
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:01.440
Right.

516
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:06.119
And fortunately, being a teacher, my kids now coming up,

517
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:10.160
that's the way they talk like, yeah, that went to

518
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:12.680
my therapist, and none of them better not they go okay, yeah,

519
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.400
all right, so we'll be doing next right, So that's

520
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:16.359
the way they're coming up.

521
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:17.759
Yeah, right.

522
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.519
And so the more we do that, the more that

523
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.079
that's like going like you're saying, you're going to the gym.

524
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:28.519
It's like, all right, whatever, cool, right, that's great, you

525
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:29.920
know it want to be.

526
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:31.279
It's so.

527
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.640
It's such a difficult thing to understand the difference between

528
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:43.079
us and everybody else, you know, our community and everybody else,

529
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:50.440
because we've had the most traumatic experiences over so many years. Yes,

530
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.640
so to think that nothing is wrong, that there is

531
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:58.039
no trauma, that there's nothing that's damaged that can't be fixed.

532
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.880
Is it's really just heartbreaking.

533
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:02.720
Yeah.

534
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.680
So yeah, I'm going to talk about it. And I'm like,

535
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.880
you know, I'm not ashamed, I'm not embarrassed. I of

536
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.279
course I felt judgment. Yeah, but when you say it

537
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.960
that way that some people talk about it, like it's

538
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:20.920
just a regular thing you can't in our own community,

539
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.440
it's just baffling and heartbreaking.

540
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:28.440
Yeah, because it's not something that is, like I.

541
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:33.440
Said, normalized, And once it becomes more that way, then

542
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.519
you saying it is like you know, you're saying, I'm going.

543
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.599
To the store. It's like all right, right, right, you know, And.

544
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.359
That's the way it should be, because I don't care

545
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:47.119
if you suffer with chronic mental illness or you're just

546
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:48.720
going through a particular.

547
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:49.359
Time period in your life.

548
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.880
I've gone to therapy, you know, I've had people my

549
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.039
family go to therapy.

550
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.880
It is not to me is essential and not only

551
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.359
living in this world, but being a person of color

552
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:02.079
in this world.

553
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.559
Like you said, you know, we still deal with the

554
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.079
you know, the traumas of slavery.

555
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.839
You know, we think that's gone.

556
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.240
Because you know, you don't have people walking around in

557
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.240
chains as far as you know, picking cotton, but you

558
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:21.960
got people incarcerated that has that connection with slavery. You know,

559
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.079
there's a reason why police stop a black person without

560
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.400
having any kind of you know reason other than you're

561
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.200
a black person walking down the street.

562
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.559
You know why of somebody?

563
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.839
Right, It's because it's not just because you just fit

564
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:37.480
the description.

565
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.599
Is because that's a part of our history.

566
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.599
There is a part of history where there are authority

567
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:47.079
figures who stop black people while they were going places

568
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:48.359
and asked for their papers.

569
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.440
Right where you going, boy?

570
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:56.079
Who you belong to? That doesn't just go away. You know,

571
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:59.759
that's in people, right, that's in your genetics. So when

572
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.039
you see a black person walking down the street, whether

573
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.359
you feel like it's their neighborhood or not, you know

574
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.719
they are people empowered by the fact. I saw this

575
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:11.079
video with this white guy. He wasn't even a police officer,

576
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.679
black kid walking through his block. He comes out and

577
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.800
asks where's he going? You're not a police officer. We

578
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.239
mean asking me where I'm going? Right, But if that's

579
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:24.559
in themness, I feel like I can ask you that, right,

580
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:26.880
And that's something to our history in that.

581
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:28.960
And so how does that black kid feel?

582
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:33.400
You know, you automatically assume I'm doing something wrong because

583
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:39.480
I'm walking while black, driving while black, doing whatever while black. Right,

584
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.559
those things don't go away, And those if we don't

585
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.320
teach our children that it's all right to not only

586
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:48.159
be vulnerable and speaking about them, and that's the other thing,

587
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:53.760
being vulnerable, but also addressing them with a you know,

588
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.960
somebody who's a clinician, a therapist and saying, look, you know,

589
00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:59.199
I'm frustrated about this.

590
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.360
It's not right that I should be treated this way

591
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:02.280
in school and.

592
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.800
Work or whatever. No, we're just gonna say we tough

593
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.960
and we can deal with whatever. That stuff has the

594
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.840
gold places. This is why our kids, some of our

595
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.480
kids who don't get this information go out and they

596
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.639
shoot people right while they go out, and they're violent,

597
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.679
right while they're flipping out in school, and nobody's saying, well,

598
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.880
you know what's wrong, Jerome. Because it happens to Sally

599
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.880
or Johnny that Johnny could throw something across the room,

600
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.000
they go, oh, baby, it's all right, let's go talk

601
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:30.920
to the social worker.

602
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.079
Jerome. Does it? Police get called?

603
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:35.719
Really?

604
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:38.840
Yess know what I'm saying.

605
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.719
And you think kids don't feel that they may not

606
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.440
be able to verbalize it. Would you think kids don't

607
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:47.119
feel that that That's what happens when I have a tantrum,

608
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.599
But you go to another community, a social worker gets

609
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.000
called I have a tantrum, police putting handcuffs on me,

610
00:35:54.440 --> 00:36:02.719
and I'm like, ten, that's traumatic, that is And if

611
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.480
that doesn't go somewhere, that same kid grows up angry

612
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.519
and he goes out in the world and he does

613
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.000
something dumb because nobody addressed it.

614
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:20.480
Right, Absolutely nobody addressed it. There's like so many things

615
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:25.000
that I could say. Let me first go back So

616
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.920
I'm from Harlem, and I was on my way to

617
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.119
my grandmother South Saint Nicholas Projects, Rest in peace to

618
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:38.159
my grandmother. I was walking to the Chinese food place

619
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.400
and I was just getting.

620
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.159
Some food, probably gonna be broccoli, you know, and.

621
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.480
I got stopped by a police officer who was asking

622
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:52.920
me for I D Now, mind you, I left New

623
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.920
York when I was ten. My mom, she worked for

624
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:59.719
American Express, and so you know, she had the opportunity

625
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:03.199
to to move around, so she decided to move us

626
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:08.880
to North Carolina, then South Carolina right then final Miami.

627
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.719
Now I came back to New York in two thousand

628
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.920
and eight and I started working out a college doing

629
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.360
financial aid. And one night I really wanted to go

630
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.079
see my grandmother. So I went to my grandmother's house.

631
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:26.079
But I was hungry. You know how some grandmother's baby

632
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:27.199
eind cooked today.

633
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:34.159
So yeah, right, so I went and no one told

634
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.440
me that officers just come and stop you for ID.

635
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.000
Now, my ID I still had it was Florida. I

636
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.239
still have my Florida driver's license. So the officer was like.

637
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.880
You know, is this you? Like, yes, doesn't it work?

638
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:52.920
So he's like, well, you need.

639
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.719
To get your ID changed from Florida to New York.

640
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.000
So I'm like, all right, I'm pretty sure there's something

641
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.960
about that. But he just made me feel like I

642
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:02.360
wasn't supposed to be there.

643
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:03.800
Why was I out?

644
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.519
Like when you talk about driving while black or walking

645
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:12.840
while black or going into a store while black. Yeah,

646
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.800
it was just such a weird experience. And I was

647
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:20.360
just repeating this story to my coworkers very recently, probably

648
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.639
like a week ago, and they were like, wait, why

649
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:23.400
did they stop you.

650
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:25.239
I'm like, I don't know.

651
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.679
Yeah, And that's that's totally illegal for him to do that,

652
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.639
because he's supposed to tell you when he stopped you

653
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:34.239
why he's stopping you. And this is what I mean,

654
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.679
you know, because had you been a white woman, I

655
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.440
don't care if you're walking down that street in Harlem

656
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:42.199
or not, he wouldn't have done it.

657
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.039
He wouldn't have, right, but he felt.

658
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:49.320
Like he could because you know, he felt like you

659
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.920
wasn't empowered and in the neighborhood that you're in, right,

660
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:55.239
because he's supposed to explain, well, I'm stopping you for

661
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:55.719
this reason.

662
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:58.679
All you can ask, well, what's your reason for stopping me? Right?

663
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.360
Because he has to have a re he's in for

664
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.920
stopping you, not just because he's strolling down the street.

665
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:07.960
You violating your rights. That's what I'm talking about.

666
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:09.920
And my instinct is just to comply.

667
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.239
Yeah, yeah, you want to come home alive, Yes we

668
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.079
want you.

669
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.199
Yes, exactly.

670
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:19.599
But that was just a really weird experience.

671
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:24.239
Now, if I go to my son Xavier, now you've

672
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.199
metic Xavior before. Yes, so he's my little chocolate drop.

673
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.599
Now he's a little darker than my other two. Yeah,

674
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:39.239
but I feel like he gets the the brunt of

675
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.079
a lot of different things when it comes to colorism. Yeah,

676
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:49.159
when you talk about the child, now, if he's misbehaving

677
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:53.119
in school, they're like, well, he has ADHD, he needs

678
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:53.880
to be on medication.

679
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:55.360
Mm hmm. Yeah.

680
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.440
Not the fact that, oh he's he has a lot

681
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:02.320
of energy and he's he's bored in the class.

682
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.119
Maybe he needs something more challenging.

683
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:05.880
Yeah.

684
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.639
So what was told to me was, well, we don't

685
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:11.440
want him to grow up as a statistic.

686
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:14.280
What does that mean?

687
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.199
That's that's that's great, that's a great question because I

688
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:21.039
don't know what that meant, you know, But I would

689
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.119
say to you, like I would say to any parent

690
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:25.599
being a teacher on the other end, that you always

691
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:28.960
have to be, you know, mindful, protect your.

692
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.039
Children, you know.

693
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.559
And I would tell any parent like I did, which

694
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.360
is have my child evaluated, not because I believe anything

695
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.360
is wrong with him, but that you have that paperwork

696
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:46.119
to say, well this isn't or is the issue? Right,

697
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:48.679
So when they come with to you with that, you go, okay, yeah,

698
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:53.480
well it is. You can't do this. You can't do that, right.

699
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:55.760
You have to protect your children, you know, we have

700
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:58.679
to be That's why I applauded you when you said

701
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.480
you were part of the PTA, you know, because we

702
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:04.880
some of us think that you just drop your kid

703
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:09.599
off and it's somebody else's responsibility. That responsibility doesn't stop

704
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.119
when your child goes into school.

705
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:11.800
Right.

706
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.239
I don't care if you have a teacher like me

707
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:15.800
or you got some teacher who could care less.

708
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:17.159
I love all my kids.

709
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.559
I feel like when they were into my class, they

710
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.440
are my children, not meaning that I am replacing you,

711
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.440
but I am on their team with you, the parent. Right,

712
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:31.079
We're on the same team, which is to make them succeed. Right,

713
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:33.360
And so when they enter my class, I will I

714
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:35.119
would treat them like I would treat my own daughter.

715
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:35.760
Right.

716
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.559
I want the best for them. I want them to win.

717
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.159
I want to see them win, right, and then saying that,

718
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:43.360
you know, as a parent, you know, we have to

719
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.639
continually be involved all the way until they're an adult,

720
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:49.960
you know, and they can kind of advocate for themselves

721
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.599
because they're going to enter, particularly as children of color,

722
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:58.119
they're entering into the system that doesn't always have their

723
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.440
best interest at heart.

724
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:03.159
Right. Like I said, I've had kids.

725
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:05.920
You know, instantly, when that kid acts up, you know

726
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:07.199
it's because they're violent.

727
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:08.719
I've had other.

728
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:13.599
Teachers and administrators say this about children, right, and I

729
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.840
have a problem with that, especially with your child of color.

730
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:18.880
You got to give me real evidence other than because

731
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.239
that child picked up a pencil and threw it across

732
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.719
the room that they're violent, Because that's two different things.

733
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:25.519
Right.

734
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:30.400
When you said somebody violent, their intent on doing harm

735
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:35.679
to themselves or others, and it's usually to others. Right,

736
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.920
So if you say some kid is a violence, then

737
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.599
you better have some real documentation backing that up, right,

738
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.800
Because I'm never going to say any of my kids

739
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.840
are violence unless I have real proof, which means that

740
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.159
we need to get them in a situation where they

741
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:55.320
could still be successful.

742
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:55.960
Right.

743
00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:00.599
This may not be the same the best situation for them,

744
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:04.199
but you know I have that actually triggers me when

745
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.480
I hear that as a teacher and it's one of

746
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.519
my kids in my classroom in my school.

747
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.159
We better be clear.

748
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:15.280
On when we use wording like that with children of color, right,

749
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.159
because they get stigmatized where other communities don't, and they

750
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.800
could do the same thing or worse, they still don't

751
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.800
get labeled at they still don't. But our kids they can,

752
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.280
like I said, they can pick up I'm mad, no

753
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:33.960
a pencil and not hit anybody.

754
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:34.559
Oh they're violent.

755
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.719
Trum, they're violent and they should be locked up.

756
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:45.199
Yeah, kid had a tantrum. Children have tantrums.

757
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.719
Yeah, And sometimes they don't know how to express themselves.

758
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.360
That's why we have to teach them how to express themselves.

759
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.639
Right, going through.

760
00:43:56.559 --> 00:43:58.000
The journey and understanding.

761
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.239
So I'm the vice president on the PTA board, but

762
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:06.320
also a volunteer, a field volunteer for American Foundation for

763
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.800
Suicide Prevention, so on top of that mental health advocate.

764
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.840
So just being able to be in a space where

765
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.760
I'm thinking, what are the best words how do we

766
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:26.760
safely express ourselves, Like even when we're angry and we

767
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:30.400
just want to kick, scream, throw things and whatnot, we

768
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.960
have to be able to.

769
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.639
Know what it is that we're feeling. Now.

770
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.159
One of the things that I feel we need so

771
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:46.480
desperately is someone who's a mental health advocate or someone

772
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:52.480
who can really understand and take time with children and

773
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.000
just talk to them about their mental health or how

774
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.559
to be more expressive. Like I didn't really understand how

775
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:04.079
to talk to my kids, but I started getting a notebook,

776
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:08.960
a feelings notebook where they would be able to draw

777
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:15.519
how they're feeling. Do you have someone in I guess

778
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:18.920
what is it? Do you have anyone in your school

779
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.880
district that is doing.

780
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:24.719
That we I mean most schools are supposed to have

781
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:30.360
either social workers or usually it's the social worker somebody

782
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:31.360
who works with the kids.

783
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:33.280
But those children have to have.

784
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:40.719
You know, what's called the iep uh and be documented

785
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:46.239
that they must see a social worker or someone who's

786
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.440
in the mental health field to be able to talk

787
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:52.000
to about these things or do some of the activities

788
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.159
that you're talking about. This is what I mean. But

789
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.400
even if you feel like you know, as a parent.

790
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.920
You know, well, you know Johnny doesn't have or Jerome

791
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.079
doesn't have. You know, I don't think if this is

792
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.320
wrong with them, it's still good to get him evaluated,

793
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.440
you know, get him evaluated by the school board so

794
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:11.760
they can get those kind of services, because you just

795
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:15.719
walking in there saying, hey, they need these services doesn't

796
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.880
necessarily guarantee that they're going to get them right. And

797
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:22.719
so it's good to have documentation not only so they

798
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.519
can get them, but also for their protection, you know,

799
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:29.320
because certain people could say, can't just slap a label

800
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:34.440
on them, right, You can't have said administrator said, teacher

801
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.719
saying your kid is this, you know, like I had

802
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.679
a teacher telling my talk about my daughter, saying that she.

803
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:42.440
Was like crazy.

804
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:44.760
You know, I've literally had a ministry to say that,

805
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.079
you know, because again, she had a tantrum. She didn't

806
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:55.920
hurt anybody, but she got upset, right and you know,

807
00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:59.840
she got angry, and you know, they had to sit

808
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.599
in the office and had to call me, you know,

809
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:07.519
to come in there. And when I talked to my

810
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:11.760
daughter and she told me that this administrator said this,

811
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:16.960
I literally, you know, I had to have words with

812
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.920
this person saying First of all, you shouldn't be talking

813
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:20.719
to children that way.

814
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:22.480
That's the move one right.

815
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:29.119
Number two, there is no diagnosis or any kind of

816
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:33.480
evidence for you to one use the improper.

817
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:38.400
Words, right because you, to me at this.

818
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:41.480
Point, you know, different than some kid bullying her. And

819
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.559
adults do bully children too, by the way, right, Uh,

820
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.159
So you need to be clear about one how you're

821
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:51.880
talking as a leader of a school, because other people

822
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:53.440
are listening to you and they're.

823
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.480
Saying, oh, what she said is okay?

824
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:57.840
Right, So I had to have, you know, put in

825
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:01.519
writing and file a complaint of against this person, you know,

826
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.280
and they face consequences for that because you have to

827
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.719
be clear. This is why what I mean while you

828
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.079
have to still advocate for your children, you know, you

829
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:14.159
don't drop them off in You have to continually advocate

830
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:19.079
for them so that when these things come up, you're ready,

831
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.880
you know, because for our kids, you kind of got

832
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:27.079
to be like a soldier in a battlefield, you know

833
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.920
what I'm saying, because they're going to try it.

834
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.599
I tell my kids, I'm like, look, you might piss

835
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:36.199
me off, but I'm not going to let somebody else

836
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.639
put their hands on you or call you out some

837
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.360
other kind of name. I'm going to be the protective

838
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.760
one in your life.

839
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:48.840
Yes, and battles, yeah.

840
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.639
And we have to do that until they're able to

841
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.239
stand on their own and fight for themselves, you know,

842
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:58.079
because there are people who do not have their best

843
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.320
attentions to heart. And I don't care how good at

844
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.719
school they go to. Sometimes it's worse. And some of

845
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:09.039
these schools are supposed to be so called good schools

846
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:11.960
because they already feel like your kid don't belong the

847
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:14.880
you know, or you got in through some social program

848
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.239
or some whatever. Right, so you got to be ready,

849
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:23.079
and then you also have to be what I learned

850
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:24.159
because I told her at.

851
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:25.760
A Gifted and Talents in school.

852
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.920
And sometimes what we do as parents is we put

853
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:34.360
our kids in position of who we want them to

854
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.719
be rather than recognize who they are.

855
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:39.400
Right.

856
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:43.320
Not everybody you know belongs in a Gifted and Talent

857
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.239
in school doesn't mean they're not going to.

858
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:46.599
Be successful in life.

859
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:51.719
Right, But some kids, like all human beings, aren't built

860
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:52.920
for certain things.

861
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:54.320
Right.

862
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.840
Putting your kid, your kid of color, in an old

863
00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:58.679
white school, not every kid can.

864
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.559
Deal with that. You got to be clear about that.

865
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.639
Can my kid deal with that because there's gonna be

866
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.559
some challenges for them, right and if they can't, then

867
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:08.480
they don't belong there.

868
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:09.039
Right.

869
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.199
And it is my kid the gift in child person.

870
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.519
And it's not just because you want to walk around

871
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.559
telling you buddies, Oh yeah, you know Sheila is in

872
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:21.639
the Gifted a Talented program.

873
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.840
Meanwhile she failing every day. How you helping up? How

874
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:25.639
you helping ourselves?

875
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:25.880
Este?

876
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:34.639
Yeah? Wow? Parents like this all day.

877
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:35.519
Parents.

878
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:38.639
I'm telling you parents, you know when you got a

879
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.760
good one, we understand. I said this the other day.

880
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:46.559
I said, you have to know your children. You have

881
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.239
to know their strengths and their weaknesses.

882
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:52.239
Yes, and accept them and accept.

883
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:56.599
It, accept and help where the area where they struggle.

884
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:03.320
I told my son e Xavier. So, my daughter, I've

885
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:06.800
never seen this on a report card. She got Mastery

886
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:13.480
of English Language, m H Language, Arts, English and some

887
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.800
other stuff. I don't have her report card up here,

888
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:21.199
but I know that my son struggles with math. Yeah,

889
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:27.159
he's doing he's studying geometry. So I told him, I'm like, look,

890
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.159
you got Haley. She's she's stronger in the writing area.

891
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:33.840
She's not so good in the math. Neither are you

892
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.719
so I found on starfall dot Com we're gonna be

893
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:39.840
studying geometry.

894
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.400
And he's like, but it's the summer. I don't care.

895
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:52.880
I'm like, this is this is not what we're doing.

896
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:57.360
We're not falling behind, try to get ahead, you know.

897
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:02.559
So yeah, I know you got to know where where

898
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:03.599
your children struggle.

899
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:09.280
Yes, and then also you know we we have to

900
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.960
also make it because I've had these conversations with my

901
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:16.239
daughter on many occasions that laziness leads to more work,

902
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:17.039
not less work.

903
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:17.920
Right.

904
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.840
I think you're getting over by kind of just kind

905
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.880
of phoning it in which you work. You're gonna pay

906
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.960
for it later on down the road. It's just the

907
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:28.559
way it is.

908
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.519
You know. You think you're getting away with it.

909
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:35.920
Now, and you may be right, but come time when

910
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:39.920
you're gonna have to pay up, it's gonna be ten

911
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.760
times worse, right, because you spent so much time wasting

912
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:47.000
and not working.

913
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:47.800
Right.

914
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:52.400
I tell my kids the ones that I teach now

915
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:58.119
in the urban areas, you know that work hard now,

916
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:01.400
so when you get to my age, it's not as hard.

917
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:02.440
Right.

918
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:04.960
You know, you look in the back, this money in

919
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.719
the back, right, you want to go buy something you

920
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.000
can do that. Right, when you go for a job

921
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:13.280
and you don't like that job, you can say you

922
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.360
know what, I want to leave now, and you look

923
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.639
at your resume and you have that option.

924
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.079
There's other people gonna watch you because you got skills, right,

925
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.880
marketable skills. Right.

926
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.000
If you a plumber, ask how many plumbers they are

927
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.920
that out of work due to them not wanting to work,

928
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:36.679
right because they have marketable skills. Electricians, teachers, all these

929
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:40.199
people with marketable skills. Right, I don't care if you

930
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:45.000
are an administrative assistance, that's a marketable skills.

931
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:46.280
Somebody's gonna want to hire you.

932
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:47.159
Right.

933
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:51.039
So if you get to the point where you've built

934
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:55.760
marketable skills, the likelihood of you being out of work

935
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:57.920
or even out of work for a long period of

936
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.599
time is very unlikely. Right, as opposed to somebody who

937
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:04.920
was lazy and said I'm just gonna kind of sit around.

938
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:06.800
And you know, hope for the bets.

939
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:11.480
Right, that person is probably going to have a hard

940
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:12.440
time in life.

941
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:13.480
Especially later on in life.

942
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:18.159
So when you like forty thirty whatever, and you struggling,

943
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:20.880
and nobody wants to take care of a forty thirty

944
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:28.000
year old person, they don't right then it becomes much harder.

945
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:33.280
That's why at fifteen, sixteen ten, you want to put

946
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:36.000
that work in so once you get older it gets

947
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:36.679
a little bit easy.

948
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:38.760
Yeah, that's what it's about.

949
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:47.159
I am appreciating this conversation, especially when we got to

950
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:51.440
the mental health conversation, because it's just such a real

951
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:52.480
topic for me.

952
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.920
Yes, going through everything that I went through.

953
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.920
But I wanted to bring this up because we're in

954
00:54:58.920 --> 00:54:59.639
the month of July.

955
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:00.559
Mm hmm.

956
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:03.440
July is bb Moore.

957
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:09.519
Campbell National Minority Mental Health Awareness Month. It was June,

958
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.880
but I guess I think somewhere along the line it

959
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:21.159
switched to July. So just a little background on who

960
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:26.559
bb More Campbell is. She was an American author, journalist, teacher,

961
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:30.480
and mental health advocate who worked tirelessly to shed light

962
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.400
on mental health needs of the black community and other

963
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:38.679
underrepresentative communities. So I'm glad we're having this conversation a

964
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:40.039
little bit on mental health.

965
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:44.079
By the way, it's needed. So thank you, Nikki.

966
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:45.280
Thank you.

967
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:51.119
Tell me one more time about Bronc's book Festival.

968
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:56.039
Yeah, so the Bronx Book Festival will be this July

969
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:58.639
the thirtieth and the thirty first, it will be virtual

970
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:02.280
on Zoom, so you can go on the Bronx book

971
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:06.000
Fair actually has their own Facebook page, so you can

972
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:09.239
always just look up Bronx book Fair and going there

973
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:11.880
and then they have all the updates on there. You

974
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.480
can also follow me. I'll definitely be sharing it on

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Derek M. Guest the Storyteller on Facebook, on ig on Linkedins,

976
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:26.199
just Derek and Guests. You can find me on there

977
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:29.599
and I share them on all of my pages so

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you guys can keep up to date.

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It's going to be a great event.

980
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:36.440
I would implore those who are going to be free

981
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.400
that day to come check it out. Get some chips,

982
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:45.320
some popcorn, some wings, right, find some new authors, poets

983
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.679
and you know, I love finding new stuff, like you're

984
00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:52.000
talking about, you know, the Chinese restaurant, and it is

985
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:56.159
satisfying to find there's a wonderful.

986
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:59.960
Hole in the wall, greasy you know, greasy spoon, right,

987
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:00.960
hole in the wall.

988
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:05.199
I got like this amazing food, right, Yeah, you haven't

989
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:09.320
heard about it anywhere. It's the same thing about this event, right,

990
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:11.880
It's like, man, I never heard this book written by

991
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.239
this guy or this poet. I'm like, Wow, I got

992
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:16.320
to go check them out wherever they at, or go

993
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:18.719
buy something and chair with my friends. That's what I

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00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:22.239
like doing. So I hope that you guys who listened

995
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:25.599
to Nikki Marie will come out and join us, and

996
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:27.280
you know, I'll see.

997
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:27.840
You out there.

998
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:32.920
You know, I did an interview very recently on shout

999
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:38.840
Out HTx where I talked about the ability to tell

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00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:43.480
a story, whether it's fact or fiction, just having the

1001
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:46.679
ability to tell a story, Like how many times have

1002
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:50.920
you read books to your kids and you or not

1003
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.440
even a book, you just made up a story. Yeah,

1004
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:59.880
once upon a time, this little princess. You know, I've

1005
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.039
have the ability to just make up stories.

1006
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:04.280
You know, sometimes people.

1007
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.639
Can't even afford to buy a book, and I think

1008
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:11.400
that we experienced a little bit of that, and through Kidlightenment,

1009
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.199
we were working with book ferries shout out to book

1010
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:19.039
theories where you would donate books and you know, each

1011
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:23.639
child who cannot afford a book, it's a book. But

1012
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:26.960
I just think of the opportunity to be a storyteller.

1013
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.880
It is a people you know kind of think of

1014
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:37.039
it as a not valuable skill, but actually it's valuable

1015
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:40.679
on so many fronts. You know, not just writing books

1016
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:45.119
or things like that. But you know, being a radio personality,

1017
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:51.239
being a marketer, being a politician. You know, Barack Obama,

1018
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:53.559
what's a crazy storyteller?

1019
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:54.639
You know what I'm saying.

1020
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:56.840
When he talked about his parents, he talked about his

1021
00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.360
mom and his dad, how they got together.

1022
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:01.280
You know, he talked about you.

1023
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:04.159
Know, racial issues that he dealt with as a kid.

1024
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:09.519
If you're not a great storyteller, you're not able to

1025
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:13.079
communicate with people and connect with people on so many

1026
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:18.239
different levels. You know, because storytelling allows a good storyteller,

1027
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:22.920
it will tap into emotions. You know that it's going

1028
00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:25.079
to make you want to connect with them. You know

1029
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.719
that that makes that person somebody you want to listen

1030
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:30.840
to on the radio, who you want to buy a

1031
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:33.840
book from, Who you want to vote in as presidents?

1032
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:34.639
Right?

1033
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.920
Who even if sometime they are on the other end

1034
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.400
of you know, you just want to If you're an

1035
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:43.639
employer and that persons employee, and they can tell you, well,

1036
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:46.800
they ask your story, well what's your strengths and your weaknesses,

1037
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:48.519
and you could tell a great story and the other end,

1038
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.800
nine times out of ten, you're probably going to get hired, right,

1039
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:57.400
Because that's what people. People hire people that they connect with.

1040
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:03.079
They don't connect with your resume necessarily, right. They may say,

1041
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:05.360
well this person has this that on the third so

1042
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.800
I like to at least listen to them having an interview.

1043
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:08.880
But what's going to.

1044
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.239
Sell you to them is you being able to connect

1045
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.079
with them, because you're running up against the person in

1046
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:15.559
their head.

1047
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.519
Right do I want to see this person every day?

1048
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:20.639
But I want to sit down and have coffee with

1049
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:22.760
this person, but I want to see them in the

1050
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:27.079
lunch room. Right, That's what you're running up against, right,

1051
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.519
Not because you know how to tighten the nut or

1052
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:31.559
boat very well.

1053
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:35.519
You know that's part of it, but it ain't all

1054
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:36.519
of it, you know.

1055
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:45.960
Wow, deep thinking conversation here guy, as always, Nikka, you

1056
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:48.199
always captivate us with the deep thought.

1057
01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:52.000
I think it's just.

1058
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:55.320
I think it's just something about doing interviews with people

1059
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:56.559
that you know.

1060
01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:59.639
I'm always learning. I'm always learning.

1061
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:01.000
You should never stop.

1062
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:04.039
So I always want to bring out the best because

1063
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.000
I want everybody else to learn along with me.

1064
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:08.559
So yeah, thank you.

1065
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.440
Yeah, I got to take a nap now after talking

1066
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:13.320
to you.

1067
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.320
Take a lot out of me, Nikki, I gotta be

1068
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:18.239
doing this deep.

1069
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:22.000
And are you thinking about words?

1070
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:27.800
Yeah, I thought we were just here talking about the Bronx.

1071
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:32.639
You know, we go eat at or something like that.

1072
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:38.400
What's your favorite place? When was the last time you

1073
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:40.679
were in Harlem or.

1074
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:47.119
I was at Harlem recently? I love I love Harlem.

1075
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:49.960
Harlem is is like my second home. Well actually now

1076
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:54.280
my third home, you know, besides the Bronx. So's the Bronx.

1077
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:57.840
Uh Harlem and now it's sister.

1078
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:00.360
Here.

1079
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:03.000
The other day and people was hating on Harlem, and

1080
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:05.880
I said, look, we had some legends come out of Harlem.

1081
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.760
An hate on Harlem. You know, you know how to

1082
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:11.039
Philadelphia people.

1083
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.320
Are many you hate me because you hate me.

1084
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:20.559
And then I just learned last night. I know this

1085
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:24.199
is probably somebody gonna tell me, like what you just learned?

1086
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:26.280
This Keith? What is from Harlem?

1087
01:02:26.519 --> 01:02:29.639
Yes, there's so many greats from Harlem.

1088
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.159
I'm from Harlem.

1089
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:34.679
I lived in Harlem thirty years. I'm not from Harlem,

1090
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:38.119
but I lived in Harlem thirty years. So look, that's

1091
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:39.679
one of the places that when I left the Bronx,

1092
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.199
I wanted to live, you know, because I mean that's

1093
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.840
a cultural mecca, our cultural mecca, you know, of black culture.

1094
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:48.599
You know, you got.

1095
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:52.480
The jazz, musicians, you got, you know, all kinds of musicians, poets,

1096
01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:58.119
writers who came from Harlem. You know, So how could

1097
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.840
you hate someplace that's basically the like a black culture.

1098
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:06.840
Thank you, Black, thank you, thank you.

1099
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.440
That's a mecca black culture. I don't care where are

1100
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:12.840
you from? You feel like what other places? That's where

1101
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:14.320
most of the stuff has gone.

1102
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:16.760
Or grown from? It is there?

1103
01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:22.800
Well, thank you for the salute.

1104
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:25.440
Basically, that's that's what you just did. You just did

1105
01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:25.880
the suite.

1106
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:29.480
I understand.

1107
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:31.440
On Harlem.

1108
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:33.960
Stop hate, stop hate, stop hate.

1109
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.519
I'm from the South Bronx and I love Harlem, so

1110
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:39.239
come on and South Bronx got some great people come

1111
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.440
out of South Bronx too, but Harlem is still a mecca.

1112
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.800
You just gotta you gotta do this respect.

1113
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:53.199
And on that note, thank you to everyone who is

1114
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:55.960
tuning in to Warnings with Nicky Marie.

1115
01:03:56.639 --> 01:04:00.159
I am, of course your host, Nicky Marie. And that's

1116
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.159
one K people. I know why everybody's will with two, but.

1117
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.880
It's just one K and you can follow me on

1118
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:09.039
all social media platforms at nick and Marie Underscore Radio.

1119
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:13.679
Thank you to our guests today, Derek and guests, thank

1120
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:16.599
you so much for blessing the Mike with your presence,

1121
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.440
with your knowledge, your gifts, your talents, and all that.

1122
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:23.000
I appreciate you, Nikki, now and always